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De Latino sine Flexione; Principio de Permanentia<\/h2>\n

 \"De<\/a><\/p>\n

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\"De<\/a><\/p>\n

4.\u2014Conjugatione de verbo<\/h2>\n

\u00abPersonae verborum possunt esse invariabiles, suff\u00eccit variari ego, tu, ille, etc.\u00bb.<\/p>\n

LEIBNIZ.<\/p>\n

Lingua latino habet discurso directo, ut: <\/p>\n

”Amicitia Inter malos esse non potest”<\/p>\n

et discurso indirecto:<\/p>\n

”(Veruni est) amicitiam Inter
malos esse non posse”.<\/p>\n

si nos utimur semper de discurso indirecto, in verbo evanescit desinentia de persona, de modo, et saepe de tempore.<\/p>\n

Sumimus ergo nomen inflexibile, per persona modo et tempore, sub forma magis simplice, qui es imperativo, activo et passivo. Regula es:<\/p>\n

\u00aba) Ad forma
inflexibile \u201ces, pote, vol, fi\u201d
responde infinito \u201cesse, posse, velle, fieri\u201d.<\/p>\n

b) Ad forma inflexibile de allo verbo adde -re, et te habe infinito, ut es in vocabulario latino.<\/p>\n

c) Ad verbo activo adde -re, et te habe passivo.<\/p>\n

d) Nos transforma verbo deponente in activo\u00bb.<\/p>\n

(Verbo ”vol, dice, duce, face”, et regula d) non es exacto latino classico).<\/p>\n

Nos indica persona cum ”me, te, nos …”, modo cum ”si, ut, quod, …”, tempore cum ”heri, jam, in passato, nunc, cras, in futuro, vol, debe, …”.<\/p>\n

Ex. ”Me scribe.\u2014Vos lege.\u2014Cras me i ad Roma. <\/p>\n

\u2014Cras me, postquam veni ad Roma, scribe ad te. <\/p>\n

\u2014Heri me lege dum te scribe et antequam Petro veni.<\/p>\n

\u2014Si te narra, nos audi.\u2014Ut te vale.”<\/p>\n

Peano, Giuseppe, 1858-1932. De Latino sine Flexione; Principio de Permanentia. HardPress Publishing. Kindle Edition includes seven chapters.<\/em><\/p>\n

Peano\u2019s examples translated<\/h2>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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\t\t\tLatino sine flexione<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tEnglish<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\tCras me i ad Roma.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tTomorrow I will go to Rome.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\tCras me, postquam veni ad Roma, scribe ad te.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tTomorrow, after I have come to Rome, I will write to you.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\tHeri me lege dum te scribe et antequam Petro veni.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tYesterday I read while you were writing and before Peter came.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

\t\t\tSi te narra, nos audi.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tIf you tell us, we listen.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n

100 exemplo de interlingua 51 \u2013 61<\/h2>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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\t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tLatino sine flexione<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tLatina<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tEnglish \t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\t73<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tTe pote frange, non flecte, me.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tFrangere potes, ne me inflectas.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tYou can break, don’t bend me. \t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

\t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tTranslating this sentence was challenging because we can read "me" \t\t\teither as "I" or "me." Similarly, "te" \t\t\tcan be either a subject or an object. Also, that comma before the \t\t\tlast "me" makes the sentence even more vague.<\/p>\n

What \t\t\tI wrote above is an excellent example that simplifying language \t\t\thas its limits. My subject is "mi," and my object is \t\t\t"me." The corresponding words for the second person \t\t\tsingular are "tu" and "te." Of \t\t\tcourse, my practice violates the rules of grammar written by \t\t\tPeano.<\/b><\/font><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\t74<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tMedico es periculo plus que morbo.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tPlus est periculi e medico quam a morbo.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tThere is more danger from the doctor than from the disease.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

\t\t\t75<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tQui designa uno, exclude alio.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tDesignatio unius est exclusio alterius.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tThe designation of one is the exclusion of the other.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

\t\t\t76<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tQuem plure time, debe time plure.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tNecesse est ut multos timeat quem multi timent.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tMeaning:
<\/i>Those who \t\t\tare most frightening must be feared most of all<\/span> \t\t\t(people).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\t77<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tDic ad me cum qui te i, et me dic qui te es.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tDic mihi quis tecum iturus es, et dicam tibi quis sis.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tTell me who you are going with, and I will tell you who you are.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\t78<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tNos ne debe disputa de gustu.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tDe gustibus non est disputandum.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tThere is no disputing about tastes.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\t79<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tQui ama me, ama et cane de me.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tQui me amat, amat et canem meum.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tHe who loves me loves my dog.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

\t\t\t80<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tMorte pro patria es dulce.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tDulce et decorum est pro patria mori.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tIt is sweet and glorious to die for the fatherland.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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\t\t\t81<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tHodie ad me, cras ad te.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tHodie mihi, cras tibi.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tIt is my lot today, yours tomorrow.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

\t\t\t82<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

\t\t\tNos ne cupe quod ne gno.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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\t\t\tNolumus quod nescimus. \t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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