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The English version of this article after the Finnish version<\/em><\/p>\n

Helka Riionheimo,
Suomen kielen professori
It\u00e4-Suomen yliopisto<\/p>\n

Ilkka Pakarinen,
Kirjoittelija,
Lapin maakunta<\/p>\n

Hei,<\/p>\n

Haluaisin tiet\u00e4\u00e4, onko suomalaiset ja suomensukuiset kielitieteilij\u00e4t ajatelleet kehitt\u00e4\u00e4 yhteist\u00e4 kielt\u00e4 kaikille ugrilaisille kansoille<\/a>. Monet sukukielet ovat kuolemassa ja samalla sukukansojemme kulttuuri.<\/p>\n

Israelissa elvytettiin jo kuollut hebrean kieli ja se el\u00e4\u00e4 kukoistuksen kautta. T\u00e4m\u00e4 oli siell\u00e4 tietysti v\u00e4ltt\u00e4m\u00e4t\u00f6nt\u00e4, koska juutalaisilla ei ollut yht\u00e4 valtakielt\u00e4, josta pystyi rakentaa identiteetti\u00e4.<\/p>\n

Tietysti modernin kantauralin kehitt\u00e4minen olisi haasteellista, koska esimerkiksi unkarin kieli on kulkeutunut hyvin kauas it\u00e4merensuomalaisista kielist\u00e4. T\u00e4m\u00e4n tosiasian vuoksi yhteinen kieli voisi jakaantua kahteen linjaan moderniin kantauralin ja modernin kantasuomen kehitt\u00e4misiin.<\/p>\n

Tietysti monet pienten kielikuntien puhujat vastustavat t\u00e4llaista ajatusta, mutta jos ollaan rehellisi\u00e4, niin oman identiteetin l\u00f6ytyminen t\u00e4llaisen kielen kautta olisi varminta. Jos ajatellaan esimerkiksi karjalan kielt\u00e4, se on kieli, johon on sekoittunut ven\u00e4j\u00e4n kielt\u00e4, suomen kieli on ruotsin kielen ja viro saksan kielen saastuttamaa jne. Mit\u00e4 omaa t\u00e4llainen on?<\/p>\n

Kaikkiin kieliin tietysti tulee sanoja toisista kielist\u00e4, mutta silti suomalais-ugrilaiset kielet ovat rakenteellisesti muuttuneet vuosituhansien aikana yll\u00e4tt\u00e4v\u00e4n v\u00e4h\u00e4n. N\u00e4in t\u00e4t\u00e4 kannattaa mietti\u00e4.<\/p>\n

Terveisin<\/p>\n

ilusamuli
alias Yelling Rosa,
kirjoittelija<\/p>\n

https:\/\/yellingrosa.com\/wordpress\/<\/a><\/p>\n

Tul t\u00e4s mielhe<\/h2>\n

Mi\u00e4 uon vain t\u00e4llai kirjottuja,
mut mius ell\u00e4\u00f6 urralmiel.
Se vuatii tulha esih
ja pajattua Urral
kansaih kelel.
\u00a9 Yelling Rosa<\/p>\n

Tul t\u00e4s mielhe \u2013runo on karjalan murretta, karjalan kielt\u00e4 ja inkeroisen kielt\u00e4, mitk\u00e4 on keitetty samassa padassa ja h\u00e4mmennetyt perusteellisesti. N\u00e4in on saatu aikaan kielin\u00e4yte, joka ei oikeastaan ole mit\u00e4\u00e4n olemassa olevaa kielt\u00e4.<\/p>\n

The Flag of Ugrians <\/h2>\n

\"The<\/a>
The Flag of Ugrians<\/a><\/p>\n

Uralic-speaking world<\/a><\/h3>\n

There are over 23 million people who speak the Ugric languages.
\nThe most remarkable groups are Hungarians<\/a>, over 14 million, Finnish<\/a>, around 5.5 million, and Estonians<\/a>, over 1 million.<\/p>\n

In English<\/h3>\n

This is a letter to professor Helka Rionheimo<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Hi,<\/p>\n

I would like to know whether Finnish linguists have considered developing a common language for all Ugric peoples.<\/a> Many tribal languages \u200b\u200bare dying, and at the same time, the culture of our tribes.
 
\nThe already dead Hebrew language was revived in Israel and is living through prosperity. To wake up in Hebrew was necessary because the Jews did not have a single language from which to build an identity. <\/p>\n

Of course, developing a modern proto-language would be challenging because Hungarian, for example, has moved very far from the Baltic Finnic languages.<\/a> Because of this, linguists could divide the common language into developing lines in the modern proto-Uralic and proto-Finnic development. <\/p>\n

Of course, many speakers of minor languages \u200b\u200boppose such an idea, but to be honest, finding one’s own identity through such language would be a guarantee. If we think of the Karelian language, for example, it is a language mixed with Russian, Swedish has contaminated Finnish, German has contaminated Estonian, etc. What is this? <\/p>\n

Of course, words from other languages \u200b\u200bwill appear in all languages, but Finno-Ugric languages \u200b\u200bhave changed surprisingly little over the millennia. The standard modern Finno-Ugric language<\/a> is something to consider for all Ugric people.<\/p>\n

Regards
\nilusamuli
\nalias Yelling Rosa,
\nauthor<\/p>\n

https:\/\/yellingrosa.com\/wordpress\/<\/a><\/p>\n

Tul t\u00e4s mielhe<\/h2>\n

Mi\u00e4 uon vain t\u00e4llai kirjottuja,
mut mius ell\u00e4\u00f6 urralmiel.
Se vuatii tulha esih
ja pajattua Urral
kansaih kelel.
\u00a9 Yelling Rosa
25\/6 -22<\/p>\n

Tul t\u00e4s mielhe<\/strong> poem is a mixture of the Karelian dialect, the Karelian language, and the language of the Ingrian, which I have cooked in the same pot and thoroughly stirred. This language soup is the result of no existing living language.<\/p>\n

Just Pop in My Mind (Tul t\u00e4s mielhe)<\/strong><\/p>\n

I am just an unknown writer
\nbut inside of me lives the mind of Ugrians.
\nThis spirit demand to come into the air of humans
\nand speak in the language of Uralic people.
\u00a9 Yelling Rosa
25\/6 \u201322<\/p>\n

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Origin of the Finns, Hungarians and other Uralians<\/h3>\n